It started innocently....

It started as two guys from California in a foreign land...Texas... going to college; who became brothers, the best man in each others wedding, and friends. We have been asking crazy questions, driving people nuts, not afraid to go to the dark places of life...ours and others. We can be deep and incredibly shallow...we are guys!

Fast forward almost thirty years; we are hospital chaplains who still ask crazy questions, drive people nuts and think we have something to say about people, relationships, religion, families,
theology, hospital care, health care, patients, culture, life...and we are not shy about doing so!